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God Conscious Without Religious Dogma?

Postby backtohome » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:58 am

Question: God Conscious Without Religious Dogma?

Respected Sankarshan Das Adhikari,

Can one be God conscious without being indoctrinated by any religious, sectarian dogmas or beliefs?

I do not accept Krishna as the God that I understand. My idea of God is the all pervading consciousness of which I am a part, an inseparable, homogeneous (to use a pragmatic word) whole. So the idea of surrender to self is irrelevant. Krishna is redundant. He is defined as an avatar of God as conceptualized by human mortals. It is mere belief, desperately wanted as true. He certainly could have been a great and enlightened individual. The Bhagavad-gita is both a synthesis and the essence of the Vedas, Vedanta, Puranas, etc. The Gita is a part of Mahabharata written by Vedavyasa or anybody for that matter. Krishna is a character, whether imaginary or real is any body's guess. It is certainly a good belief system that one would definitely love to cling to. But it is not for an enlightened mind.

It is certainly through the mechanism of mind, thought, intellect, feelings, deep introspection, and meditation that one experiences God consciousness and not with the help of five senses. It is an experience beyond senses. It certainly does not require that one believe in Krishna to experience God consciousness.

S R Das


Answer: God Realization is Beyond All Dogma

Yes, one can be God conscious without be indoctrinated by dogma or sectarianism. In fact, to become purely God consciousness one MUST go beyond all dogma and sectarianism. Therefore we must approach the science of God realization with a completely open mind. We must always remember that as conditioned souls we do not yet know what is God, and we must carefully avoid any preconceived notions.

God is God. Whether we accept or do not accept, does not alter the position of God even to the slightest degree.

It is a fact that God is experienced beyond the realm of the senses. Thus to experience God we must awaken our powers of spiritual perception through the process of self-realization. But unless we are spiritually awakened we cannot understand properly or know how to implement correctly the process of self-realization. Thus the danger is always lurking in the shadows that we may delude ourselves into thinking that we are spiritually awakened when factually we are in illusion. This is why we require the guidance of a fully self-realized spiritual master. If we simply try to speculate with our imperfect senses about what is God and how to realize God, we will remain perpetually in darkness.

If we try to judge in our conditioned state Krishna's divinity or lack thereof, we are treading on very thin ice because until we have fully realized God we are not in a position to judge who is God and who is not God. Especially when we see that all the great Vedic authorities such as Narada, Asita, Devala, and Vyas have all accepted Krishna as the Supreme Godhead we should be very hesitant to throw in our two cents worth in this regard. When a conditioned soul dreams that he can perceive the Absolute Truth just like a liberated soul, he is killing his opportunity for genuine spiritual realization.

Therefore we should always remember that it is only when we lay aside all pre-conceived ideas and become like blank slates to hear open-mindedly from the person who has fully realized God that we can genuinely realize God.

Sankarshan Das Adhikari
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