we r not doer ,then why we liable to face karmic reaction ?

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we r not doer ,then why we liable to face karmic reaction ?

Postby npawar » Wed May 27, 2009 4:40 pm

see krishna says in bhagvad geeta ,every thing happens b'coz modes of material nature .
then why we have face karmic reation ,mean krishna is doer then he should be responcible for this. :geek:

e.g ravana actually is jay in vakuntha ,just by will of lord came in material world then why we have to critisize him everytime, he is doing thank less job * :?:
हरे कृष्ण हरे कृष्ण कृष्ण कृष्ण हरे हरे || हरे रामा हरे रामा रामा रामा हरे हरे||
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Re: we r not doer ,then why we liable to face karmic reaction ?

Postby VISHAL SHIRALKAR » Sun May 31, 2009 12:53 am

HARE KRISHNA!
PAWAR PRABHU.
We have been given the license to do what ever we want, by Lord KRISHNA.
This we call it as Free WILL. and that doesn't mean that Lord Krishna is responsible for what you are doing.

According to BHAGVAD GITA there are three modes of nature, mode of GOODNESS,PASSION and IGNORANCE.
Plus if we agree to albert enstien's 3rd law of FORCE which states that "Every action has equal and opposite reaction".
Similarly law of nature states that Every action has equal and corresponding reaction. i.e.
If you do good karma then you will get good reaction, but if you do bad karma then you will get bad reaction.
For example: you may want to enjoy some spicy food, but along with that your tongue will also have go through
that cruel burning sensation.
also you may have gone through this before that, your parents might have warned you from doing something
that you shouldn't do. similarly MAYADEVI under the guidance of lord Krishna, makes us to go from different
types of situations so that we realize that this material world is full of miseries and our ultimate aim is to realize the existence of LORD KRISHNA!
HARE KRISHNA!
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Re: we r not doer ,then why we liable to face karmic reaction ?

Postby gopinath » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:07 pm

There are three doers for any action. The living entity is a desiring doer, material energy (which includes three modes of material nature) is a facilitating doer and finally Krishna is a sanctioning doer. In these, Krishna is never affected by the action (na mam karmani limpanti na cha me karmephale spriha). However, He sanctions the desires of the living entities (who are desiring doers). Thus, the living entities are entitled to the fruits of their actions (good or bad) based on their desires and actions.
In summary, if you do something good or bad, only you are entitled to reactions because Krishna is only a neutral sanctioning doer. Furthermore, since without material energy's facilitation and without Krishna's sanction, you can not even move a blade of grass. Therefore, simultaneously, you are neither a doer (in an independent sense) nor are you free from the reactions of your actions.

I hope this clears yours doubts.
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Re: we r not doer ,then why we liable to face karmic reaction ?

Postby tsvora » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:10 pm

Dandavat Pr,

You can got www.spiritualscientist.com for answers to all such questions for beginners.

Hare Krishna,
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